Hublot-v1 vs. v1-lite

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  1. trksh-bzr

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    We all know the two magnificent reps, by many said to be made by same factory, by mainly the same parts.

    -I was expecting a lite tempus to arrive, so I could compare the two. Unfortunately, the tempus wasn't shipped along with the rest of my order, so I ended op getting my ice bang first.
    having had itchy fingers for 2 weeks, waiting to rip this apart, I coouldn't resist comparing my old v1 tempus to my v1-lite ice bang instead. This might cause some comparisons to be inaccurate, due to the 2 watches being different models, but for the most part the 2 models are the same watch, so for now we shall see what is different in the parts that are the same on the two.

    The parts that are reasonable to compare on a tempus and a ice bang are:
    The case
    The bezel screws
    The lug plate
    The lug plate screws
    The crown
    The pushers (internally most important)
    The crystal
    The strap
    The clasp

    the things, where I am not sure, that a comparison is reasonable between a tempus and an ice bang are:

    The bezel, (tungsten/Titanium can be different to work with, might be the reason the bezel is different than tempus)
    The rotor

    Things that are different are:

    The caseback
    The dial and hands
    The bezel colour

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    worry not!!




    Let's start with the case :

    the first thing I noticed was the piece of ceramic between the lugplate and the strap hole, was thinner. this is one of the reasons the lug plate sits recessed, and not raised as the gen, and the original V1.

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    The next thing is the surface on the "non ceramic/carbon" part. The lite being a more rough texture.




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    Next are the bezel H-screws:

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    Also here there's a difference, the lite being thicker than the V1.



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    On to the lug plates.


    Again there is a difference in sixe and thickness, but both are interchangeable from v1 to v1-Lite.
    The V1 has a thin plate, that slides under the bezel and keeps the lug flate fixed and straight, this is missing on the V1-Lite.
    The length of the lugplate has been discussed on the forum, but the length is the same.

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    The lug plate screws:

    The screws, much like the bezel screws are different in thickness.


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    The crown:

    The crown on the V1-lite has flatter teeth, and is as such more accurate to gen than the V1. the plastic is slightly better on the V1, but hardly noticable.


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    The pushers:


    The outer pushers have been covered so many times, I forgot to take a photo of it :) basically the V1 one has more accurate plastic tips, and the V1-lite has shorter plastic tips.
    More interesstingly, the inner pusher has a totally different build, and is NOT interchangeable with V1 pushers.


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    The crystal:


    The crystal is actually same thickness and appears similar , so there's a side shot of the V1-Lite crystal, and one of the Taka, and one of a TX collector, just for comparison.

    I also did some shots of different hbb crystals to compare the AR.

    (as a side note, I discovered that the V1-Lite crystal has a bigger bevel on the inside, than on the outside, and therefore looks taller if turned around, though the hight still remains a quater of a frog pube raised from the bezel.)
    this V1-lite is turned around.
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    The bad TX Crystal only added to show how big difference there is on the " real " tx AR, and the unfortunate one he had.​

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    The strap:


    Not much to say here, the strap is the exact same in feel softness and size. (the one I have unfortunately smalls like the air con in an egyptian 1 star hotel) pure mold!-could be just mine, I dunno.


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    The clasp:


    The clasp appears to be the same as well, so apart from the angle of the light on the pic, there should be no difference.


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    Now, the things where I am not sure if there is a difference on the V1 and the V1-Lite.

    The bezel:

    First note that the V1-Lite and the V1 bezel is interchabgeable, though they are installed with different screws.

    The pattern on the V1 bezel side, is like a car tire, but on the ice bang that I have, the pattern is more like little pointy "pyramids. I know that the gen ice bang, has the same tire pattern as my tempus V1 bezel has, but I'm not sure if the original V1 ice bang has pointy pattern like the V1-Lite or tire pattern like the V1 or the gen.
    Perhaps, because the ice bang bezel is a different material than the ceramic ones, the rep factories cant get the correct pattern in the ice bang.
    I will know for sure when I get my V1-Lite tempus, if it has the same pointy pattern, then I assume the pointy pattern is just a lite issue, and not a general ice bang issue.



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    Another point where I am not sure if we have a V1-Lite vs. V1 difference, is the rotor.
    the V1-Lite rotor is lighter colour than the V1, this could be general for the V1-Lite, but could also just be a ice bang thing.


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    P.S. let me add this little very simple mod :)

    Couldn't resist this. - by making a small plate of kitchen aluminium foil, and installing it under the lug plate, you will make the lug plate sit raised as the V1 does.
    Simple quick and it works!!!!!
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    The last pic, is the plate, that you cut into shape.

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    I hope you find this usefull :)

    I will update when I get the V1-Lite tempus.​



    trk.

    EDIT: aarh crap! I just noticed that I passed 2000 posts a short while ago....should have done this as number 2000 :)
     
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  2. Dr.Verylong

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    Great! Well done, this was very interesting.
     
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    Well done trk. Award should be added to you my friend! Good work! Rep points added!
     
  4. repwatch009

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    Great review. For my strap, I covered it in vanilla extract(with a paper towel) and let it sit in a ziplock with a vanilla bean for a day or two. After I removed the dried extract it smelled much better. I first tried just the vanilla bean in a bag but that didn't work as well. Vanilla bean is expensive too, so maybe the extract alone would be enough.
     
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  5. mt666tm

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    Great thread!

    I also noticed the difference in build when I was tearing apart the V1.5 black magic that I just got.

    A couple points to add to your info:

    The E-clips on the V1.5 pushers (and probably the pushers themselves) are the same that they use in the better Quartz HBB's.

    I have the Black magic strap (the tire-tread looking one) and I found that the V1 strap is better than the V1.5 in overall look and the definition of the text on the inside. The stinky strap seems to be hit & miss. Mine was ok.

    The clasps are actually different, the H-screws on the V1 strap are plugs that are glued in place while the V1.5 are actually screws that you can unscrew and polish off the PVD to get them silver. See what I mean:

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    I got mine just to check it out and was going to sell it, but I threw a TX crystal, V2 rotor, and V1 strap on it and Its a keeper now:

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    When your Tempus arrives please do a couple up-close shots of both dials so we can see subdial depth and datewindow cutout differences. Thanks!
     
  6. trksh-bzr

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    I sure will :) -I always thought my V1 tempus had a kindda not so good minute subdial @3 not quite deep enough, and not sharp enough. also, on close inspection the V1 tempus has these tiny dark cheese holes, or dark spots (hard to tell if it's holes or spots) on the hands and numerals and baton markers. will be interessting to see if the V1-Lite is the same.
    pics will follow.
     
  7. JC7

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    well done.. the foil is a good ideal.
     
  8. acg2010

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    If using the foil though make sure to use some loc-tite. The screws will be raised so they'll have less threaded into the receptacle hole, so they've got less to back out of the hole to come loose.
     
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    loved your black magic watch! where did you buy this?? site? do you know where can i buy a TX crystal and v2 rotor?
     
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    I didn't use loc tite, first of all because it is already a bit annoying to catch the thread in the hole with the screw, so the loc tite might easily b e hardned by the time you have first touch with the hole- also possibly get caught in the foil or strap. secondly because it feels as if the foli works as a spring washer, keeping a constand pressure on the thread. so far everything seems to be fine
     
  11. guru

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    Great post...outstanding
     
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    This post is now Award Winning! :woot:

    Nicely done, Trk. Excellent breakdown.
     
  13. trksh-bzr

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    thanks guys :)
     
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    stick it for the good work!!
     
  15. trksh-bzr

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    thanks alvin :)
     
  16. puretime

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    wow, that is impressive! A very comprehensive review!
     
  17. Mikeldn88

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    Thanks for the comparison.

    Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk
     
  18. Samehzgreat

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    guys where can i get a hublot without being frauded
     
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    I went to AD 2 days ago and its amazing how close my black magic lite is. I mean jaw dropping good. I had to laugh when I pointed out to the sales guy that the brand new $11,000 king power had the worst fit connecter between the strap and the case. One side was flush and one was raised a MM.FAIL. I am very happy with the lite I bought and highly recommend the black magic lite!
     
  20. believer123

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    Very good comparison - It really helped me.